Lisa-Marie Cabrelli Professional Reinvention: Corporate to Career Independence

00] my one thing is producing. So it doesn't matter what area you produce in, you just are a producer. So anyway, that was a really long introduction. Sorry about that. But you said, tell me from the beginning. Okay. How can I tell you from the beginning of fit that all in? So that's my life story in a nutshell.

Good. I'm glad that you found them that way. That's really good. I love to hear people who enjoy the course.

00] use Roam. There's few that teach it for a specific subject. Lucas, does, he teaches his Cite to Write for academics, which is also another really good academic course worth taking. But I think that there is space in the Roam Research user base to also have courses for specific results that include more than just you as using Roam, but include tools and skills, that are part of the particular,subject area that you're teaching in. So like my academic course, which doesn't just teach how to use Roam, it teaches how to get from A to B to finish a paper. I would do the same for business and for creative writing.

00] the things that I think is very important.

00] background and you're going into something as, wide ranging as skills that a business needs. You need to understand how to implement processes to make sure that you can make the most of your time and your money. So I taught them how to save time and money and build processes. And then under that, I told them the basics of, building a brand, how to do marketing, your customer neighborhood, I have just tons and tons of, business coaching stuff. But basically I think the most effective thing for people was process because process doesn't only help you in your business life, and it also helps you in your personal life as well.

Sometimes, and it's usually extremely personal to me. My husband and I have supported, because of,the sale of my business. We have had the opportunity to support some other folks in their business endeavors. Some have worked, some have not worked. but yes, if I feel very personally committed to a business idea, I will actually step in as an angel investor. I usually require that, I have some kind of involvement as well in terms of, just coaching or board membership or things like that.

00] and, as just an on a volunteer basis. Sometimes there are folks that come through the incubator,that I target. And also sometimes are just folks that, that come to me. I'm interested in bootstrapped businesses. I am not interested in businesses that need big, huge funding. I'm not, I, it's not interesting to me. When I sold my business, I didn't have any debt and I owned it 100 percent. And that was the way that I could retire. A lot of people once they start a business, they want to go out and get millions of dollars and they want to buy desks and they want to, buy computers and hire people. And I'm not interested in that. And I actually that's not my skillset.

00] is not something that I would enjoy, long-term. You talked a little bit about thinking more deeply and that's absolutely true, but in another way, it's also restrictive. I've found that I'm more of a, I'm way too interested in too many things to be an academic.

00] have the time to do what you want and have the, the freedom to do exactly what you want. You do not need as much money as you think you need. And I actually have exercises that show people how. You can go through what you have and realize that you don't need as much money. But it's scary, because people think that money is the solution to everything. And so that's the message like, if you, to your clients, like I would give to these older women, like you don't need as much as you think you need. Don't think about the money first. Think about what you want to do first. So one of my things for my coaching, I used to say is make your business work for you and don't spend your life working for your business.

You're right. That's a huge, issue for Americans. So it is a huge kind of restriction to starting your own thing. That has to be part of your budget. You can get rid of that.

00] that there is a huge marketable space for writing the kind of fiction that you're talking about, which is what I call Netflix fiction. Which is you just get to the end of the book and you just want to read the next novel. And that is actually what a lot of people like to read. Now, that doesn't mean that because there's a lot of that out there that, number one, it's not good because, there's a lot of really great, series, with complexity in fantasy and science fiction. And number two that it's taking over the world. So there's not still room for really clever, complex, interesting, challenging literature. There's room for both. But I think what's happening is because this kind of Netflix niche literature is so widely available, that folks are starting to read that. And I'm thinking that's the only thing. You know that is available and is out there. But I think there is still really, yes, there's a lot of junk fiction out there right now.

Oh, I have to write that one down. Have you read any, have you read any Tana French? She, is Irish, American, I think, she lives in Ireland and she writes crime fiction. But she writes literary crime fiction. Her books are so well written. You're reading these books and you just have to stop and think about the prose.. So she's a crime fiction novel where the story is great. It grips you. It's the same sort of, intensive storyline, but the prose is absolutely beautiful.

Ah, yeah, you got to get a vampire book in there somewhere.

And also, if you want to learn more about the courses, the Roam courses, it's Roam for results.com yes, no, I'll put all these in the show notes. I think those are very important. So anyone who's really interested in really systemizing how you take notes and using them and bringing them back out that your courses have really for that they're very practical. So I would highly recommend them. So thank you, Lisa. This has been a wonderful conversation. Thank you very much for making the time to talk to me. and. Up and at them. I think that's what you say in your course, isn't it?

Onwards and upwards. I forgot it, but yes, it's always in the back of my mind hearing you say that when you finish your course, thank you very much. And we'll talk to you soon. Thank you. It was really nice to speak to you.

00] things like this is well done. So please have a look at the show notes. Because there's lots of links there for Lisa's stuff, including, some of her novels that she's written. So thank you again for listening and I look forward to you becoming a listener in the future.